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“Music is the emotional life of most people” – Leonard Cohen

Welcome to the conversation we need to be having.

Music is our emotional life, still, the emotions, struggles and vulnerabilities of classical musicians are chronically overlooked. Here, we are creating a space to talk, share and connect through our various struggles and successes as musicians.

Listen to the Things Musicians Don’t Talk About podcast and read our blog to find out more!

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About us

Hattie Butterworth– Founder and host

Hello! My name is Hattie Butterworth and I am a cellist, recently graduated from the Royal College of Music in London. Throughout my undergrad I struggled with mental health issues, such as OCD, anxiety and depression and found the classical music profession lacking in the kind of support I desperately needed- peer support. It lacked a means of connecting with the many others that experience and experienced similar issues to me.

I launched the Things Musicians Don’t Talk About podcast in 2020 and subsequent blog to ensure no one musician feels alone in their suffering, in whatever capacity that might be. I hope you find it resonates with you and don’t hesitate to get in contact if you want to share your own story. I also write my own personal blog if you want to find out more about me.

Rebecca Toal – co-host

I’ve struggled with my own mental health issues and eating disorders for over a decade, and having the chance to join the podcast with Hattie and cultivating discussion on MH is an absolute honour. I am passionate about helping people not feel alone, being frank about how we’re feeling, and ending stigma surrounding mental health, disordered eating & body image issues.

Our aim

Our aim is to share the stories of musicians, and those that work in the arts/creative industries. Both through the podcast and blog we hope to connect to anyone who may be struggling, in whatever capacity, or those who are simply curious! This may be issues around mental health, money struggles, failure, injury, loneliness and more. We will talk about anything that needs to be heard, without exception.

Share your story

If you would like to write a guest blog for the website or have a story you’d like to share with us, please get in touch via the contact page.


“Connection is why we’re here; it is what gives purpose and meaning to our lives”

Brene Brown


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